Re: Corrupting, er... converting new players
From: wscottfield@c...
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 14:21:25 +0000
Subject: Re: Corrupting, er... converting new players
"Don M" wrote:
> if those fail, there is always gun point or my personal method,
> the breeding of your own opponents....
LOL!
> Then I found the DEEP divisions between
> the historical guys (read that as Napoleonic Anal-Retentive) and
> the Swords and Sorcery and Sci-fi types.
And we won't even talk about the LARPers, card gamers, train gamers...
I guess every subculture has to have it's own sub-cliques.
> The Sci-fi RPG-ers that
> played Traveler or SFB were up for anything at least once
That's been my experience too, maybe because so much TV & movie sci-fi
revolves around space battles that it seems like a normal extention?
> The hook I use on a new crowd is to make the table as visually
> stunning as I can
Agreed, although that *can* backfire. I've seen gamers walk away from
minis tables muttering "I'd never have the time to build all that!"
Another reason to love FT: two minutes splattering paint on a black
cloth and you've got your "terrain."
Scott
"God bless the LARP-ers; they make the rest of us look normal..."
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> The GZG Digest Thursday, June 9 2005 Volume 02 :
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> RE: [FT] Fun for the end of summer... Re: Bencon 2005 Was: Is
> thereanybodythere.....
> Re: [FT] Fun for the end of summer... Re: Bencon 2005 Was: Is there
anybodyth...
> Re: [FT] Fun for the end of summer... Re: Bencon 2005 Was: Is
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> Re: [ECC AAR} FMA Sheep
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> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:07:08 -0400
> From: "laserlight@quixnet.net" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
> Subject: RE: [FT] Fun for the end of summer... Re: Bencon 2005 Was: Is
> thereanybodythere.....
>
> > >Thanks, guys. I guess I'll HAVE to get going on these
> > local guys so I can
> > avoid making the total fool when trying to FT in Denver.
>
> Chris-the-lamb-abuse schreib on 06/08/2005 10:29:07 AM:
> > Try FTJava.
>
> From: Doug Evans
> >I've heard about you online sharks, trashing and demoralizing the
weak. I'd
> never play again!
> >The_Beast
>
> My Jedi mind powers apparently don't work through FTJava, so you're
safe.
> Safer than if you came to ECC, anyway.
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:25:33 EDT
> From: VinsFullThrust@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [FT] Fun for the end of summer... Re: Bencon 2005 Was: Is
there
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> In a message dated 6/9/2005 6:52:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> devans@nebraska.edu writes:
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> I've heard about you online sharks, trashing and demoralizing the
weak. I'd
> never play again!
>
> The_Beast
>
>
> What do you mean?
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> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:27:35 EDT
> From: VinsFullThrust@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [FT] Fun for the end of summer... Re: Bencon 2005 Was: Is
> thereanybodythe...
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> In a message dated 6/9/2005 8:08:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> laserlight@quixnet.net writes:
>
> > >Thanks, guys. I guess I'll HAVE to get going on these
> > local guys so I can
> > avoid making the total fool when trying to FT in Denver.
>
> Chris-the-lamb-abuse schreib on 06/08/2005 10:29:07 AM:
> > Try FTJava.
>
> From: Doug Evans
> >I've heard about you online sharks, trashing and demoralizing the
weak. I'd
> never play again!
> >The_Beast
>
> My Jedi mind powers apparently don't work through FTJava, so you're
safe.
> Safer than if you came to ECC, anyway.
>
>
> Chris my young padawa learner. dont make me use the force, the force
of my
> IJ warships anyway.. LOL
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> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:44:29 -0600
> From: Scott Field <wscottfield@comcast.net>
> Subject: Corrupting, er... converting new players
>
> How to con role-players into trying Full Thrust:
>
> At BenCon last weekend I ran a Star Hero RPG about a commando team
> infiltrating an enemy-held planet to gather intel before the fleet
> arrives. The scenario then fed into a Full Thrust game that evening,
> when the fleet arrived. If I'd had more time to put something
together,
> I might've tied it in even more directly, with the player characters
> from the RPG scenario commanding ships in the FT scenario. As it was,
> three out of four RPG players were curious enough to see how the story
> ended that they signed up for the minis game too. Two of them had
never
> played a minis game before. Now they're hooked! I probably would've
> attracted more players if the RPG had been a more familiar ruleset (ie
> d20 or Traveler), or based on a familiar setting like Trek or
whatever.
>
> Just a thought that seemed to work well enough. Take it or leave it.
>
> Scott
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:32:02 -0500
> From: "Don M" <dmaddox1@hot.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: Corrupting, er... converting new players
>
> Just a thought that seemed to work well enough. Take it or leave it.
>
> Scott
>
> All those are excellent points however, if those fail, there is always
> gun point or my personal method, the breeding of your own
> opponents.... All kidding aside, great job there!
> In my own experience I started wargaming and role playing
> at about the same time with the same group of people. I really didn't
> discover the division between the two venues until reassignments
> broke up our group. Then I found the DEEP divisions between
> the historical guys (read that as Napoleonic Anal-Retentive) and
> the Swords and Sorcery and Sci-fi types. There were a few who
> crossed over back and forth but, for the most part they just eyed
> each other with suspicion and down right contempt. The exceptions
> to this were naval and W.W.II/Modern land combat guys who role
> played at the games table without even realizing it. Also the guys
> that played that one off odd usually obscure system were open to
> anything......) On the RPG front the D&D crowd were the hardest
> to get into tactical games, which is odd when you consider they
> spent half the time in some sort of melee! The Sci-fi RPG-ers that
> played Traveler or SFB were up for anything at least once, so it
> was all up to your presentation if you kept them or not. The hook
> I use on a new crowd is to make the table as visually stunning as I
> can and do a good back ground fluff read at the beginning.......Seems
> to work on the 40% you end up keeping.......)
>
> Don
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 04:56:49 +0100
> From: Infojunky <infojunky@ceecom.net>
> Subject: Re: [ECC AAR} FMA Sheep
>
> laserlight@quixnet.net wrote:
>
> > DonM asked:
> > Which Elder God covers the San Fernando Valley?
> >
> > I believe that's "Sheep-niggurath"
>
> You forgot her honorific.
>
> Sheep-niggurath Mallwalker
>
> And her temple, Sheep, Shack and Incomprehension. aka Elder Navy.....
>
> Sorry term just finished, must do something constructive with this
left
> over energy.
>
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> Evyn
>
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>
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