Re: FB designs & fighters

On  6-May-02 at 07:45, Eric Foley (stiltman@teleport.com) wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Books" <books@jumpspace.net>
> To: <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>
> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 7:18 PM
> Subject: Re: FB designs & fighters
> 
> 
> > On	3-May-02 at 16:04, Brian Bilderback (bbilderback@hotmail.com)
wrote:
> > > If the current designs are valid within the context of facing
other
> current
> > >  designs, then no change seems necessary.  If the changes are
intended
> to
> > > make the current designs more useful against more
advanced/optimized
> > > designs, then the changes skew the rules.
> 
> > Actually, let me simplify to why your solution doesn't work.
> 
> > Ignore fighters and non-base (no plasmas or wave guns) for the
moment.
> 
> > Design any ship you want using these systems.  Go ahead and min-max
> > if you want, I don't care.	the decent FB1 ships (ignore that D#$N
> > FSE BDN), if using similar masses, will give your ships a run for
> > their money if played by someone of equal or better tactics than
> > yours.  You may have a 10% or so advantage but that would only be
> > because you are designing ships to fit your tactics.
> 
> All right.  Let me throw this at you for size... this is just a quick
> screw-around thought pulled straight out of my rectal orifice, so it
may
> have a mild flaw.  But it's not terribly atypical of the designs that
one
> sees regularly in my games for a ship designed to fight without
fighters.
> 
> Mass 250
> Average hull, thrust 2, FTL
> 4 Firecons
> 4 SMLs, 3 salvoes each
> 4 SMRs
> 3 Class-3 beams, 3 arcs (spread to front/right/left)
> 10 Class-2 beams, 6 arcs
> 21 PDS
> 
> Assume cinematic rules, fixed table.
> 
> This ship says that every design in FB1 is space dust.  To compare to
each
> of the SDNs:

Any decent FSE player would have a reasonable shot against this.  It 
has so little thrust FSE can't miss with SMs.  You are going to
waste most of your SMs trying to hit fast moving and maneuverable
ships.

I won't speak to the others because I primarily play FSE.