Re: [DS] Points system (fresh)

Ryan M Gill wrote:

>>You're right, a basic jeep chassis shouldn't cost more than the basic 
>>tank chassis.  But we're talking about more than just the basic
chassis, 
>>we're talking about the end vehicle.	If, after loading weapons,
armor, 
>>FireCon, systems, and stealth on to the two vehicles, you get two 
>>vehicles with identical performance, firepower, armor, and both have
the 
>>same chance of being hit (signature), then the end products should
cost 
>>the same amount, REGARDLESS of what "Basic chassis" you started with.
>
>So a jeep with 2 guys in it should cost the same as a tank with the 
>signature of a jeep with 2 guys in it?

Ryan, did you even READ the text Brian posted?

>I'm not trying to be obtuse,

...but you're doing a pretty good imitation of it :-(

>That larger vehicle clearly has more combat power in it. A stealth
fighter 
>shouldn't have a lower points cost as a DH mosquito.

What Brian said was this:

IF THE JEEP HAS THE SAME PERFORMANCE AS THE TANK, then the two should
cost 
exactly the same amount of *game* points, in spite of the fact that the 
jeep is smaller.

 From your reply it is very obvious that you completely, utterly and 
totally ignored the bit I put in capitals above - otherwise you would
have 
known your statement "because the larger vehicle clearly has more combat

power in it" is completely non-sensical.

No, in this specific comparison the larger vehicle clearly does NOT have

more combat power in it, because that was the f*cking basic premise of
the 
entire f*cking comparison!

Unless of course the tank has a cloaking device. or you mount a homing 
beacon on the bike. ;-) The point was, what really matters is signature,

not actual size, when determining the vehicle's value.

>Then that tank should cost way far and above more than that bike
should.

That's nice. It means that I can take lots of super-tech über-bikes for

each one of your tanks, and since *each* of my super-tech über-bikes
have 
exactly the same performance as one of your tanks I win. Fun, eh?

>Why is signature the only value rated characteristic?

Signature is NOT the only value rated characteristic in the entire
points 
system. It merely happens to be the one characteristic discussed in this

particular example, since all other characteristics where assumed to be 
equal for the two vehicles under comparison.

/Oerjan
oerjan.ohlson@telia.com

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