RE: [SG] Close Assault Questions

Doesn't that veteran have to make a confidence check
at +8 just to get into close combat with 9 greens? I
think I'm right on this, but I don't have my book with
me.

If so, even a veteran 1 only has a 10 percent chance
of ever getting into that situation, he would have to
roll a 10 to pass. A veteran 2 could never pass the
confidence check.

--- "Bell, Brian K (Contractor)"
<Brian.Bell@dscc.dla.mil> wrote:
> As I stated before, I would prefer it to stop at
> d12:d4.
> 
> I also like Tom Barclay/Los' ganging up rules used
> in "A Grey Day to Die":
> 
> From
>
http://fox.nstn.ca/~kaladorn/Gaming/AGreyDayToDieForumPage.htm
> Close Assault - Numbers Do Count!
> Rationale: In SG2 close combat resolution, it is
> rather revolting to see a
> Veteran defender engage 9 Green troops, roll a 7
> (mediocre or moderately
> good roll) and just tell them not to bother to roll
> any dice because they're
> all dead. A modifier should fix this. 
> Ratio 	     Effect
>  1:1		     As Normal
>  2:1		     Outnumbered figure shifts down 1
>  3:1 (or greater)  Outnumbered figure shifts down 2
>  
> 
> 
> -----
> Brian Bell
> bkb@beol.net.
> -----
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Derk Groeneveld [SMTP:derk@cistron.nl]
> > Sent:	Thursday, March 29, 2001 6:57 AM
> > To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
> > Subject:	Re: [SG] Close Assault Questions
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> > 
> > On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Tony Francis wrote:
> > 
> > > Andrew Martin wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > One other thing that concerned me.  An elite
> squad with assault
> > shotguns
> > > > closes with a green squad.  The elite squad
> rolls a d12, the green
> > squad
> > > > gets a -2 die shift.  d6 -> d4???. Can they
> fight back?
> > > > 
> > > > How about using:
> > > > 	D4 -> D4-1 -> D4-2
> > > >     ?
> > > 
> > > You could go d4 -> d2 (any dice, odd = 1, even =
> 2, or d6, 1-3 = 1, 4-6
> > > = 2, or just toss a coin !)
> > > 
> > > > And at the other end:
> > > > 	D10 -> D12 -> D12+1 -> D12+2 -> D12+3
> -> D20
> > > >     Where the averages are:
> > > > 	5.5    6.5    7.5      8.5	9.5   
>   10.5
> > 
> > Guys, before you get all carried away....
> > 
> > Do you WANT to raise the odds further than D12 to
> D4? No matter HOW good
> > you are, there is always some risk in
> hand-to-hand. By reducing one die
> > below d4 or raising the other babove D12, you are
> giving even more causem
> > to rush in the one elite badass superdude, and
> waste a whole legion of
> > green sorryasses. "Oh, see, I didn't roll a 1..
> That means you guys are
> > gonna lose, all of you!"
> > 
> > I don't think this is the desired effect. The odds
> of D12 vs D4 (approx.
> > 80% badass wins, 12.5% sorryass wins, 8% draw)
> seem harsh enough already?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> >   Derk
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