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Re: [DS] Need help with Phalanx

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:04:34 EST
Subject: Re: [DS] Need help with Phalanx

On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:55:28 -0500 "Brian Bell" <bkb@beol.net> writes:
>No. The Phalanx as written in Stargrunt is illegal (both under the 
>Stargrunt
>and Dirtside vehicle construction rules).
>
>2 x DFFG/1 in a turret =  5 pts
>1 x SAW		=  0 pts
>4 x Troop spaces	= 16 pts
>Total: 		= 21 pts
>
>I would suggest dropping it to 3 troop spaces or stating that one of 
>the
>turrets has 1 x DFFG/1 and the other the "free" SAW.
>

Brian, that doesn't work in DS2 because on page 11 it says: (Caps for
Bold Face type not volume control.)

"...ALL MILITARY VEHICLES ARE FITTED WITH ONE "FREE" APSW, CAPABLE OF
ALL
AROUND FIRE; THIS WEAPON DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS ANY WEAPONS FIT
LIMITATIONS, OR TAKE UP ANY CAPACITY.  [This is assumed to be a
Machinegun or equivalent, on an external remote mounting..."

Note that an 'external remote mounting' in not the same as mounting it
in
the turret.  It apparently is a mini-turret strictly for the APSW
(better
then a pintle mount...) only.

>2 x DFFG/1 full turret =  5 pts
>1 x SAW		=  0 pts
>3 x Troop space (4)	= 12 pts
>Total: 		= 17 pts
>
>1 x DFFG/1 full turret =  3 pts
>1 x SAW		=  0 pts
>4 x Troop space (4)	= 16 pts
>Total: 		= 19 pts
>
>---
>Brian Bell
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>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
>[mailto:owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU]On Behalf Of Casquilho,
>Daniel
>Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 6:00 PM
>To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
>Subject: [DS] Need help with Phalanx
>
>
>Hello All,
>
>	I was attempting to make cards for future mini expansions
>of my force. When I went to do the FV202 Phalanx I ran into a
>problem. Either I am doing something wrong or the vehicle as
>written in Stargrunt can not be done in Dirtside.
>Help me please.
>
>Phalanx Size 4 vehicle
>	4x5=	20 capacity points
>
>DFFG/1 in Turret = 1x3 =  3pts
>DFFG/1 in Turret = 1x3 =  3pts
>4 Troop Elements = 4x4 = 16pts
>	   Total Points = 22pts
>
>Even though the two DFFGs are in separate Turrets let's take one
>down to only 2 points? Still 21 points.
>
>Am I missing something here?
>
>	Daniel
>

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