Re: [FT] UNSC (emotional rant)
From: Michael Llaneza <imperialdispatches@y...>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:07:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [FT] UNSC (emotional rant)
Godwin's Law !!!!!!!!!!!
'nuff said
--- "Mike J." <pmj6@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --- Richard and Emily Bell <rlbell@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Parrott, Charles P" wrote:
> >
> > > Funny thing is, most totalitarian or authoritarian
> > governments don't start out that way. They start as
> > benevolent democracies, republics or monarchies that
> > slowly erode citizen rights and freedoms until it's
> > too late.
> > >
> >
> > Totalitarian or authoritarian regimes form suddenly,
> > because the previous form of government has
> > obviously failed, and the would-be dictator has "The
> > Answer".
> >
> > Yes, Hitler won a fair election. The election was
> > fair because the Nazi thugs that beat up and
> > intimidated voters were no more (or less) brutal
> > than the thugs of any of the other party, and then
> > Hitler managed to disband or defang all of the
> > groups of thugs (including the brownshirts).
>
> While I partially agree with the first part of this (I
> would put "failed" in quotation marks), I disagree
> with the second.
>
> The one time Hitler ran for office (for the
> presidency) he lost to Hindenburg, and by a fairly
> wide margin at that. He became the Chancellor entirely
> through backroom deals, rather than thanks to his
> electoral showing or his party's popularity (the Nazis
> never won outright majority of seats in the Reichstag,
> even in rigged elections). The oft-quoted "even Hitler
> was elected" statement is pure myth. It's also not
> true that the various parties' thugs had "equality of
> opportunity". For one thing, the moderate leftist,
> rightist, and centrist parties did not engage in such
> tactics, only the extreme left and right (the
> Communists and the Nazis) ones did, and even then the
> German law enforcement tended to deal with Nazi thugs
> more leniently than with Communist ones. Concerning
> the "brownshirt" disbandment, the SA continued in
> existence until the end of 3rd Reich, although its
> leadership was purged after Hitler became concerned
> its agenda was not the same as his, with the gap being
> plugged by Himmler's SS.
>
> Mike J.
>
> Mike J.
>
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