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Re: ISO: construction/scratchbuild/modelling tool advice and Dear Abby.

From: Mark Sykes <tardis@b...>
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 15:06:39 +1000
Subject: Re: ISO: construction/scratchbuild/modelling tool advice and Dear Abby.

At 1:06 PM +1000 18/12/2000, Beth Fulton wrote:

...
and incriminated herself

Hope that the momentary slip(S) from your usual splendid prose was 
due to concern for the trapped Icebird	in Antarctic waters.

BTW
I concur that variable speed is the best option.
I use an old model train controller to give a variable speed to an 
old fixed speed hobby drill.
Dremel are excruciatingly expensive here in the wetlands of Queensland.

Seasons Greetings

MarkS
All the way from Gallifrey...
Tardis...Actual portal to a virtual world

tardis@rocknet.net.au
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From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@marine.csiro.au>
Subject: Re: ISO: construction/scratchbuild/modelling tool advice and
  Dear Abby.
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G'day again,

 >and incriminated herself

I go to great lengths to avoid incrimination and promptly drop myself in

it! Last time I try! ;)

 >Hope that the momentary slip(S)
 >from your usual splendid prose....

You're obviously thinking of another Beth Fulton! ;)

 >was due to concern for the trapped
 >Icebird  in Antarctic waters.

Oh she'll be out soon, there's an icebreaker on the way and glitches
like 
that happen a lot.... one of the joys of working in Antarctica ;)

Cheers

Beth

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Are there official/semi-official/or downright unofficial SDDs for the UN
ships?	They look cool by the way.

--Peter
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Re Dremel
> used mine to good effect with all sorts of materials, although I've
found that
> for plastics, I prefer using a knife and a file set (except for
drilling) due to
> the fact that the Dremel tends to melt the plastic or at least leave
deep
> grooves when I'm attempting to grind something down.

If you cut acrylic with a jig saw, you may find the acrylic melts and
welds back together where you've just cut.  We advised people to
reduce the speed, and put some soap or something on the blade to
reduce friction.  Don't know how applicable that would be to resin
(since I don't know what the "resin" is...which of 800 kinds of
plastic are we talking about?) but it's a thought--absolutely free,
and worth every penny!
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Beth blushed:
> Just proves you're a gentleman far removed from such lowly
thoughts...
> obviously the same can't be said of me! ;)

Beth, I'd say that the likelihood of anyone here mistaking you for a
gentleman is fairly low.
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In a message dated 12/17/2000 2:57:44 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
krs@geohex.com writes:

<< Check our website, I have updated it with pictures of most of the UN
ships
 this week.  I forget who painted the models, but I took pictures at the
last
 ECC and finally got them suitable for use this last week.
 
 KR, Geo-Hex >>

Been there, seen them.. sent the link to my wife :o)

More than likely though it will have to wait till my payday. I suspect
I'm 
getting tools and orders to fix the car :o)

Randy
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In a message dated 12/17/2000 10:48:11 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
peter_mancini@msn.com writes:

<< They look cool by the way. >>

And I suspect will fit right in with the UFP fleet I'm trying to build.
(Ok, 
and a Sathar one too... which ships look best as Sathar? :o)

Randy
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>I seem to have lost the URL for the pics of the United Nations
Battleship 
>mini. 

Best piccies are here:

http://starranger.homestead.com/gallery.html

inspiring stuff.

--
Tim
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***
And I suspect will fit right in with the UFP fleet I'm trying to build.
(Ok,
and a Sathar one too... which ships look best as Sathar? :o)
***

Out of curiosity, are you asking if there are figs LIKE the old TSR
Sathar,
and would fit well beside them, or what would be good as a whole new
fleet-type?

I see the old lead for sale often, usually not terribly expensively, and
the box set has a wide variety of sizes. The smooth curves with
50's-60's
style is a nice contrast to the almost Victorian/iron-steampunk of the
Feds.

As far as vermiform, I'm trying to remember if they were segmented. That
WOULD be an interesting looking fleet.

The_Beast

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Having just watched the latest episode of nadesco, martian succesor, I
was
wondering about anime inspiored designs for full thrust. My take on the
nadesco would be using the suggestion made on the list a while ago about
using the BFG weapons (nova cannon, wave gun) like the phalic, sorry
phalon,
plasma cannons. This was along the lines of the published stats in the
book
for these weapons were the class 1/1st level weapons, and could be
multiplied for higher class weapons. This I find a good sugestion for
representing the OTT weapons/main guns used on vareous anime starships
(after all, the macross`s main gun could take out a fleet of ships if
they
flied in front of it). This is a call to the more experianced rules
layers
out there, because I have some ideas to bounce off you.

1-Would ANYbody actually use a nova cannon for long range fire, because
any
ship could maneuver out of it`s path by the third turn, any generate a
clean
miss (a nsl sd MIGHT get hit, it`s thurst is so pitifully low (I think
(of
course, if I`m wrong, somebody tell me))).

2-Would a x5 wave gun require 6 power points, or thirty power points to
fire
at max power? My leanings are towards 6 power points, with if the weapon
fails a threshold check/hit by a needle gun, each accumilated power
point
causes 1D6 points of dammage for a Cl.1 gun, 2D6 for a Cl.2 gun etc.

3-Anime uses mecha extensivly, especially in space. What would be a good
way
to represent or design mecha for use in FT (this I don`t even have any
ideas
for yet). For this, I keep thinking about the mecton Z book, which had a
system of scaling equipment/weapons/whatever, that allowed you to design
anything from powered armour to starships, using the same construction
rules.

4-Has anybody made up a list, with general notes on weapon
loads/defences/fighter or mecha compliments etc, of vareous anime for
insperation? After all, we`ve already got the phalons from outlanders.

My design for the nadesco would have 2x fighter bays (for the mecha), 4x
6arc Cl.2 bats (support weapons), a Cl.4 wave gun (to represent the
gravaton
cannon, whith seams to be able to destroy almost any ship it hits), and
2x
sheilds, with a reasonable armour and hull, because this ship can take a
lot
of punishment.

Nadesco       Gravaton cannon warship  Mass=340       Cost=1154
+mecha/fighters

					    Mass	Cost
Basic Hull				  ---		340
Hull (DP=80)				80	    160
FTL					     34 	   68
Normal Drive (T=5)		    85		 170
Screens x2				  34	       102
Armour x12				12	       24
ADF.Con x1				2		 8
PDS x8					    8		   24
F.Cons x3				   3		  12
Cl.4 Wavegun			      52	    156
Cl.2 Bats (6arc)x4		      12	     36
Fighter Bays x2 			18	       54
(+mecha/fighters)

This is just a VERY rough draft, and I`m sure I`ve overlooked somethink
in
designing it.

BIF
"yorkshire born,yorkshire bred,
strong in arms, thick in head"

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