Re: FB2 Fleets (or "How I Learned to Hate the Savasku")

"Bell, Brian K" wrote:

> One strategy that seems like it would work would be to use the
superior
> maneuverability to keep the range at about 25-30tu. At these ranges
you
> should out-gun your opponents. Granted, I think that this would be
easier in
> vector, since you don't have to be moving toward your opponent to use
your
> forward facing K-Guns.

If I didn't mention it, we play cinematic.  I thought that'd be a viable
tactic
also, although it's difficult to do, particularly if the playing surface
is
somewhat limited.  Still, that was one of the things that I did that
seemed to
work well against the humans, but the abilities of the Sa'vasku (such as
having
weapons that have the capacity to outrange anything else, and being just
as
maneuverable as the KV) nullify that tactic rather easily.

Mark

>
> -----
> Brian Bell
> bkb@beol.net
> http://members.xoom.com/rlyehalbe/ft/
> -----
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Reindl [SMTP:mreindl@pacbell.net]
> > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 1:27 PM
> > To:   gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> > Subject:	  FB2 Fleets (or "How I Learned to Hate the Savasku")
> >
> > I know there has been some talk going on about FB2, but I haven't
really
> > had too much time to follow it due to busy home life, etc., so if
any of
> > what I'm going to say has been said already, I apologize in advance
:).
> > Up until yesterday, I had only played one game with my burgeoning
> > Kra'vak fleet.  I had the chance to play two games with it
yesterday,
> > once against my old NSL foe, and one against the Sa'vasku.
> >
> > The first game against the NSL went pretty well.  At the outset of
the
> > game, I was outnumbered 3 to 1 (we played a 3200 pt. game, and I was
a
> > bit heavy on capital ships since I don't yet own too many smaller
> > ones).
> >
> >  [snip]
> >
> > Although I did win the
> > game, the outcome concerned me, because it appeared as though the
> > Kra'vak have a hard time standing up to other fleets unless they use
> > large amounts of fighters.	Also, the disparity in ship cost seems
to
> > make it prohibitive for the Kra'vak to even want to close the range,
due
> > also in part to their basic fragility when compared to ships of
other
> > races.
> >
> > During the second game, I played against a Sa'vasku fleet.	I had
nine
> > ships, he had eleven (including six destroyers; it was a somewhat
> > smaller game).  [snip]  He began firing with
> > his SD at 72" range, chiming in with his other ships as the range
> > closed. [snip]  On the last turn of the
> > game, my battledreadnought ended up within 6" of his SD.  He had
coasted
> > in, and so used all of his power points to fire weapons at me.  40
dice
> > later, my BDN had suffered over 30 points of damage, and lost most
of
> > its weapons.  At that point, I called the game, since my remaining
ships
> > couldn't hope to dent what was left of the Sa'vasku.
> >
> > In looking at that game, [snip]  I do like the Kra'vak, but in my
> > (admittedly limited) experience with them, they seem to be
overpriced
> > for what they do.
> >
> > So, what I'd like to know is:  Have any of you who have more
experience
> > with one or both of these alien fleets seen the same thing, or am
just
> > being whiny?  And second, if I am being whiny, what sort of tactics
can
> > you suggest for playing the Kra'vak effectively without having to
rely
> > too much on fighters, and/or countering the advantages of the
Sa'vasku,
> > particularly when playing Kra'vak.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark