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RE: [DS] Specialist Elements

From: "Glover, Owen" <oglover@m...>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:46:05 +1000
Subject: RE: [DS] Specialist Elements

Hi Brian,

I'd have to argue against this. First I apologise if this is tending to
get
off thread a little...

DS, Page 13 - the APSW is quoted as "...eg. heavy MG, Automatic grenade
Launcher or equivalent." - Mk19 AGL and 50 Cal equiv

The Rifle team is described as "...also contain a light team support
weapon
(an LMG or GPMG equivalent0..."  Minimi and MAG58

The Australian Army Infantry Centre, Small Arms Wing, implemented the
replacement of the MAG58 with the Minimi. At section level. The MAG58 is
retained as a tripod mounted support weapon at Coy and Bn level. In this
role then classification as APSW may be warranted but bear in mind that
First Line for a section something like 1,000 rds and for a SFMG it is
40,000!!! The SFMG has tripod and C2 site system as well....it really
does
need a vehicle and 3 men to operate it!

Cheers,

Owen G

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Bilderback [mailto:bbilderback@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, 21 April 2000 10:29
> To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> Subject: RE: [DS] Specialist Elements
> 
> 
> I'd argue that the M240 IS an APSW, while the M249 is NOT - 
> quite a bit of 
> difference between a weapon that fires 7.62 mm ammo, is 
> replacing the M-60, 
> and is used for fire support at the PLATOON level, and a 5.56 
> mm weapon, 
> capable of using an AR clip, and called a SQUAD Automatic Weapon. JMO.
> 
> Brian B
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Glover, Owen" <oglover@museum.vic.gov.au>
> >Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> >To: "'gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU'" <gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>
> >Subject: RE: [DS] Specialist Elements
> >Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:04:26 +1000
> >
> >Oops, to clarify before John A gets jumpy I misreferred to 
> the M240 as the
> >M249...doesn't change my comment though, the MAG58/M240 is 
> still not an
> >APSW...it is replacing the M60E3 in the USMC and we 
> (Australian Army) used
> >it for quite a few years as an interim between the venerable M60 and
> >Minimi....
> >
> >Owen G
> >
> >
> 
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