Re: The GZG Digest V1 #843

I'm sure you're very right, when it comes to Vietnam-style warfare.  But

that's not what DSII is best geared for, nor was it what my friend's
unit 
was best suited for.  He was a member of a mechanized recon platoon -
their 
job was to move inland from the beachheads and establish clear routes
for 
the advance of the rest of a Marine force.  They weren't sallying out
from a 
camp, to patrol and return, they were meant to be the van of an
invasion.  
It's hard for a group of armored vehicles to gain the same level of
surprise 
as a patrol in the bush.

As for well-disciplined troops, again, we're not just talking about a 
patrol's small arms - the LAV-25 is armed with, IIRC, a 25 mm
autocannon, 
and the supporting Cobras are armed with chain guns and rocket pods - 
serious enough trouble to make even the most disciplined troops feel the

need to do SOMETHING. I'm not saying they would leave cover, but they
might 
sudenly abandon their motionless hiding stances do try to dig in deeper,

someone hit might lose composure and scream in agony, someone might
loose 
off a return shot, the point is, they would be less than super-stealthy
at 
that point.

Granted, I'm sure there are situations where such a tactic is not
merited or 
even wise.  However, there must be times when it's quite useful.

Brian Bilderback

>From: dadams@parracity.nsw.gov.au
>Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
>To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
>Subject: Re: The GZG Digest V1 #843
>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 07:58:06 +1000
>

>
>Aggghhhh!!! Recon by fire (RBF) would only be usefull if you had a lot
of 
>ammo
>or great logistics. I notice that (at least in Vietnam, maybe Owen can
tell 
>us
>if it still the case) the Australian Army empshisised patrolling over
RBF,
>mainly because RBF lets the neemy know where _You_ are.
>
>Case in point was the mad minute, not true RBF , granted, but firing
insane
>amounts of ammo out from your camp lets the enemy know exactly where
your 
>camp
>was, and that you where setting up at night. A patrol, however, allowed

>better
>recon , and hopefully the benifit of supprise.
>
>In SG, this would be hard to work out, as a unit fired on would be 
>suppressed
>(only IMHO after a fully effective fire), so it would be _harder_ to
leave
>cover, not easier. And trained troops would not leave nice safe cover
just
>because they where fired on.
>So how you handle this in a game?
>
>DS, I dont know, been a while since I read the rules.
>
>Darryl
>
>
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