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# RE: DS/SG/GZGverse Just how many troops are being transported?

From: "Bell, Brian K" <Brian_Bell@d...>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:17:33 -0500
Subject: RE: DS/SG/GZGverse Just how many troops are being transported?
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Part of the answer depends on the operation.
Obviously, raids would take less forces than an invasion.

Most DS2 games that I have been in have had 5-15 units per side.
A unit would be 3-6 AFV's, 3-6 Infantry Squads (elements), and/or 1-3
tubes
of artillery. Each AFV, squad or tube would be a seperate element.

I have been in a much larger game (Carter Island...Is that still going
on?),
which had closer to 30-40 units per side. This scenario was to take a
beach
that also had a stronghold on it (fortress with Class-5 Laser Turrets).

So take an average game,call it 10 units for ease; 5 AFV Units, 4
Infantry
Units and an Artillery Unit. Assume a crew of 3 for AFV's and 5 AFV per
unit, that gives you 75 crew. Each Infantry unit consists of (for
argument's
sake) An MICV and 2 Infantry Elements. The MICV has a crew of 3 and each
infantry element has 5 men (again, just picking numbers out of the air).
That gives 52 personnel for the Infantry units. The Artillery unit
consists
of 2 tubes of artillery (agian, grasping for numbers) and is crewed by 8
soldiers each for 16 personnel. We now have 143 combat personnel. Now
add
command, logistic, and support personnel (someone help...I will guess
1:2)
to add 71 personnel. Total now 214 personnel per side.

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Brian Bell
bkb@beol.net
http://members.xoom.com/rlyehable/ds2/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Brown [SMTP:mwbrown@veriomail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 10:16 AM
> To:	'gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU'
> Subject:	RE: DS/SG/GZGverse  Just how many troops are being
> transported?
>
> How many troops are being transported for "normal" combat operations?
>  Battalions, of @1000 personnel or Brigades of 5000?	The decision
> influences
> the size and number of transport vessels.  It also dictates scenario
> design for
> objectives, victory conditions for forces lost or damage inflicted.
>
> Michael Brown
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robertson, Brendan
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 8:51 PM
> To:	'gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU'
> Subject:	RE: DS/SG/GZGverse  Just how many troops are being
> transported?
>
> When I decipher the question, I'll know the answer...
>
> I don't quite understand what you're asking.
>
> Neath Southern Skies -http://home.pacific.net.au/~southernskies/
> [mkw] Admiral Peter Rollins; Task Force Zulu
> [pirates] Prince Rupert Raspberry; Base Commander
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Michael Brown [SMTP:mwbrown@veriomail.com]
> > Sent:	Monday, March 27, 2000 2:42 PM
> >
> > Just how many troops are being transported?
> >
> > Answer this, and you are well on your way to scenario/campaign
design.
> I
> > opt
> > for Traveller style (Divisions and Corps) for the campaign.  A
Brigade
> > landing
> > force might not have the support base to conduct extended ops.
> >
> > Scenario wise, a short Battalion (2-3 Company teams) is about the
upper
> > end for
> > DS, and a reinforced Company for SG.
> >
> > Grist for the mill,
> >
> > Michael Brown

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