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Re: Combat films

From: Allan Goodall <agoodall@i...>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:55:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Combat films

On Thu, 16 Mar 2000 11:18:59 -0500, "Thomas.Barclay"
<> wrote:

>SPR the best combat film? It wasn't bad. It had some really good

I feel it was the best combat film I've seen, and I have seen some of
others. It's the first film that I've ever seen where cowardice was
shown not
so much as a personality flaw but as a defence mechanism. Sure, you can
mad at Upham (I know I was!) but on the other hand, part of me kept
"God, you really can't fault him for wanting to just dig a whole and

I liked the fact that people didn't just die quietly or quickly. Death
usually a painful, lingering thing. 

It had its faults, but I think its faults were far less than other films
seen. Do NOT get me started on "Thin Red Line"...

I've always enjoyed "Das Boot". "Stalingrad" is also good, if a bit
at the 2/3 mark. I got an eerie feeling of deja vu while watching
"Gettysburg" wasn't bad, but it wasn't about the battle, it was a
retelling of
Schaara's "The Killer Angels". Now, "The Killer Angels" is a fine book,
historically it perpetuates some aspects of the battle that have since
denounced. It doesn't talk much at ALL about the battle on the Union
and when it does it blames Ewell (I've been on Culp's Hill... I don't
Ewell could have dislodged the 11th Corps after it dug in on the first
It doesn't blame Longstreet enough, by any means. And it also misses the
travesty that was Dan Sickles on the Union left.

Which is one of the problems with war movies. They hardly ever let silly
things like history get in the way of a good action sequence or some
interesting story telling. "The Longest Day" is a prime example (how
could ignore the Canadians on Juno beach, a beach only slightly less
than Omaha, is beyond me). 

>For Sci-Fi "combat" films/segments, I think Aliens was pretty good
>the Laser Disk version with the Sentry guns and some other scenes was
>better) though the sergeant who collected the ammo should have been
>and the Marines' tactics weren't bright (though that was the point). 

Those scenes are on the extended special edition video and the DVD
too. I'm trying to think of other sci-fi movies and very few deal with
in space in a reasonable way. "Enemy Mine" has a lovely opening shot
the aftermath of a space battle. The Terminator movies you mentioned.
There is
a demand for a properly done sci-fi combat film, but it hasn't been made

Allan Goodall
Goodall's Grotto:

"Surprisingly, when you throw two naked women with sex
toys into a living room full of drunken men, things 
always go bad." - Kyle Baker, "You Are Here"

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