Re: [FT] A thought on that vector movement problem

G'day,

>>just that an abstraction. Thus I really can't see the problem with
>>movement, turn, push.
>
>The difficulty is that a Drive 6 ship can end up moving a max of 8, not
6.

OK, I think I'm working from a different premise here. I haven't had a
chance to read the background behind the tech as yet (Derek has
just said rules are blah), so maybe I'm way off track with the way I
think
of things, but as far as I'm concerned Thrust ratings is for
that engine going straight ahead and thrusters are something additional
(otherwise you would have had the restriction that
sum of main drive + thrusters = drive rating fullstop). And its because
I'm
looking at it this way that I'm not too stressed by
the drive-turn-push thing (that and the fact its used once in a blue
moon). 

>>Furthermore, as far as I can see all the modifications etc.
>One simple modificaion

I was working from memory and I just had the impression that a few
people
had suggested different 'fixes' - sorry.
(I haven't more than glanced at most of the posts directly - Derek does
the
actual reading of most threads - and so I may have missed something that
you all decided upon as a good idea, so then you can tell me to pull my
head in here)

>> suggested to fix this one (supposed) glitch
>>also knock out a hell of a lot more maneuvres than just that one.
>Such as?

One of the modifications suggested was that you couldn't main drive,
turn
and push fullstop (regardless of where you turned to) and this would
knock
out moves like main drive forward, turn 4 starboard and then push
starboard
(I've probably just got my ports and
starboards back to front, but I envisaged go forward, turn, come back at
a
diagonal). It just seems like a very confining solution for something
that
isn't that much of a problem (as far as I'm concerned).

>NSL doesn't usually have the Thrust rating to use it. Thrust 4 or
higher
>only.

Well that's the NSL's design choice. He doesn't get to move very far,
but
his beams always go in (i.e. always gets to roll for hits) whereas I get
to
flit around but I've got to live with the fact that SMs aren't sure
things. 

>>I was the first (that I know of) to point out this move.  I greatly
prefer
>>vector.

So is it a physics thing that makes this move such a bad thing? Have I
got
my ideas about engines cock-eyed or what? I am seriously trying to
understand what the fuss is all about - though I guess if I ever
bothered
to shut up then there probably wouldn't be much of a fuss ;)

Have fun

Beth

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