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RE: GZG FH: Blue water navy.

From: Noah Doyle <nvdoyle@m...>
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:58:35 -0500
Subject: RE: GZG FH: Blue water navy.

Oh, absolutely.  They just have weapon systems we haven't seen yet (big 
GMS, etc.).  There will be a lot of surface commerce traffic (there is
no 
cheaper way to move stuff than by a big cargo ship).  This will require 
naval support to maintain the SeaLOC (Sea Lines Of Communication) - as 
opposed to SpaceLOCs - given no FTL commos.  Surface ships will either
be 
big & heavily defended, or small and fast.  They will probably have a
mixed 
armament of missiles (for over-the-horizon work), beams (anti-air & area

defense) and guns (short OTH, and close defense).  Subs will be the real

killers (not much changes, does it?).  Most large ships will have 
surface-to-orbit (SO) weapons, both beam and missile.  Subs will be the
way 
to hide lots of nasty SO assets.  You probably could hide spacecraft 
underwater as well - I've always liked the Traveller System Defense
Boats 
hiding in the oceans.  But they would be easy prey for Subs.

Wet-navy ships would probably work best with an FT-ish system - note the

plethora of 'Wet Thrust' type adaptations.  For post-modern naval
combat, 
you'd want a scale of about 5-10 km to the MU (so you can have the 
long-range missile attacks and no across-table movement), longer turns
than 
normal naval games (15 mins, same as FT/DS2?), and a loose movement
system. 
 It would be a more operational-level game than tactical manuvering. 
Like 
most modern naval combat, it would probably be a game of target the
other 
guy, salvo the missiles, and pray the PDS works.  Missiles would not be 
represented on th board, 'cause they'd move across the entire table in
one 
turn.

I would also think that light naval units, with improvised weapons would
be 
common on colonies with a decent amount of water.

Noah

-----Original Message-----
From:	Alex Shvarts, Andrew & Brian Martin [SMTP:Al.Bri@xtra.co.nz]
Sent:	Thursday, September 24, 1998 05:43 PM
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Subject:	GZG FH: Blue water navy.

Just to keep people thinking over the weekend.

Do any of the NAC/NSL/FSE etc. have blue water navies?
Is there a place for them with grav vehicles and starships?

Andrew Martin
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