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RE: PA availability, was: [semi OT] Women wargamers

From: "George,Eugene M" <Eugene.M.George@k...>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:53:30 -0700
Subject: RE: PA availability, was: [semi OT] Women wargamers

My police/ Paramilitary forces are painted in a light Blue trousers/
Black
Jacket/Helmet/Cap a'la typical US coppers. The PA unit is different.
Bright
RED and as obvious as a riot control unit can be. The PD wants you to
see it
coming, much like mounted troops in crowd/riot control. BTW I use
grenadier
future warriors and cyberpunk cops, and grenadier PA. Does anyone else
make
purpose-built future cops ? I know Partha does some Shadowrun stuff that
might be useful, but they're kinda heavy on the Armor and Weapons,
grenadier's cops with auto-shotguns and billy clubs were just the
ticket.

> ----------
> From: 	Thomas Barclay[SMTP:Thomas.Barclay@sofkin.ca]
> Reply To:	FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk
> Sent: 	Thursday, September 17, 1998 3:12 PM
> To:	FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk
> Subject:	RE: PA availability, was: [semi OT] Women wargamers
> 
> Noah spake thusly upon matters weighty: 
> 
> If the real police are any guideline, all the Tac/ERT guys tend to 
> like to wear black, black and more black. Occaisionally some dark 
> navy. They might have little things of white lettering with SWAT, 
> ERT, HRT, POLICE, FBI, ATF or the like on them somewhere, but maybe 
> not. OPP Tactical Response Unit (TRU team as it was known) used to 
> wear cammie jammies just like grunts. But this partially resulted in 
> an accidental (ish) death when a guy came out, saw cammed up guys in 
> his back yard with SMGs, got his shotgun, and fired at them (and they 
> then cut him down) because he didn't believe they were police dressed 
> like that. So now they don't wear woodland fatigues 
> anymore....probably black. 
> 
> > Interesting argument - I'll have to paint up some of my ESU PA in
police
> 
> > colors (any suggestions?) for use in my developing gang war/uprising

> > scenario...
> > 
> > Noah
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Charles Gray [SMTP:cgray@jps.net]
> > Sent:	Tuesday, September 15, 1998 07:08 PM
> > To: FTGZG-L@bolton.ac.uk
> > Subject:	Re: PA availability, was: [semi OT] Women wargamers
> > 
> > Oerjan Ohlson wrote:
> > >
> > > Tom Anderson wrote, on whether or not every soldier can have a PA
> suit:
> > > :
> > > > in sp*** ma**** etc, the whole of the marines was armoured, even
if
> the
> > > guard (and > all other races) were not.
> > >
> > > This is a very poor argument. The GW Space Marines are the
equivalent
> to
> > > John Atkinson's PA divisions - of *course* everyone of them has a
PA
> > > suit. They wouldn't be PA troops if they didn't have PA suits,
after
> > > all... However, the GW Marines make up a small fraction of a
percent
> of
> > > the Imperium's armed forces, so this example supports John, not
you.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Oerjan Ohlson
> > > oerjan.ohlson@nacka.mail.telia.com
> >	In addition, remember the problems you are going to have with
> repairing
> > and sustaining the suits.  Today, one of the arguements against
> > autoloaders in tanks is that three men cannot maintain an MBT in the
> > field.  Helicopters and Jet fighters actually spend more time on the
> > ground, maintained by crews of techs, then they do in combat.
> >	I see powered armor, at least for the very long haul as being a
> "shock"
> > force, that is designed for very high tempo, short term operations. 
In
> > fact, you could make a case for police getting PA before soldiers
would
> > since a SWAT team is never far from support, and seldom is in action
for
> > more then a few hours at a time.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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