Re: DS: SAW versus APSW versus RFAC

Steve spake thusly upon matters weighty: 

> To my mind the problem is twofold:
> to represent HMGs in SGII and to account for having different types of
> MG mounted on vehicles in DSII. 
> 
> Heavy Support Weapons:
> These fall inbetween the SAW type weapons and Class 1 Heavy Weapons.
> They are normally operated by a two or three man team. They use the 
> same rules as Crew served weapons (page 30 of SGII) but the crew do 
> not count as encumbered when moving.

Unless down to 50% original strength. One guy could carry a .50 
HMG plus tripod, but he'd think he was dying. One guy pulling a 
wheeled MG like and older soviet DShK would find it a bit of a go.  
Also, in this case, you may want to shift firepower down one die type 
to reflect the abscense of a loader - these guns aren't autoloaders 
like some of the ones on vehicles and are probably belt fed. 

> Weapon		 Firepower     Impact
> ------------------------------------------------------
> HMG			  D10		D6x2
> Rotary HMG		  D12		D6x2
> Gauss HMG		  D12		D8x2

I'd be tempted to use D8x2 for the HMG also. The M2HB hits way harder 
than the 7.62mm multi-barrell does. The Gauss is obviously best of 
both worlds. Once you go to RFACs, you start reaching the calibre 
where the round is not as effective against infantry - it just goes 
right through.	

Also, minis of HW that have gunshields might offer one shift for 
cover (it is hard cover, but not 360 degree, or fully protecting) for 
the gun crew.

> The D6x2 (not 2D6) Impact is better than D12 but not by the same
> amount that D12 is better than D10 etc.

D10  to  D12 gains 1 point in mean, 2 points in max.
D12 vs D6 times 2 - mean of the former is 6.5, the latter is 7. Max 
is the same. But D6x2 is minimum 2. So it'll score more kills. 
 
> They fire as infantry arms against armoured vehicles and so can't do
> much real damage. But the need to keep them less powerful than RFAC/1s
> forbade any other options.

Good solution.
 
> I have the feeling that this is terrible unclear.

Nonsense. It's great. I'm going to use it. You should post this to 
jeremy sadler and have him put it up on the unofficial SG2 page. It's 
good! 

Tom. 
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