Re: HELP NEEDED FROM OVERSEAS LIST MEMBERS!

At 19:54 19/01/98 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>This is a request for help from any list members (overseas or not) who
have
>good knowledge of certain languages ("I speak two: English and
>Profane...").
SNIP
>
>Navy (or Fleet)
>
>Space Navy/Space Fleet/Space Force (whatever term would be most likely
to
>be used in the given language)
>
>plus any translations of ship type names (Cruiser, Destroyer,
Battleship
>etc.) and Naval Ranks (officers and ratings) from the relevant national
>navies (ie: present-day counterparts).
>
>I need these in a) German, for the NSL; b) French (and maybe Italian as
>well) for the FSE; c) Russian and/or Chinese for the ESU.
SNIP
>BTW, if anyone would like to contribute similar translations in any
other
>languages, for forces such as the Islamics (maybe Iranian?), Japanese
>defence fleet, Pan-Africans, Scandinavian Federation (Swedish?), New
>Israelis etc., these would be gratefully received as well for future
>use.....
>
>
>Thanks in anticipation,
>
>Jon (GZG)

I did a Higher in Russian at school, and have a long-standing interest
in
the Soviet armed forces, so here goes:

NB, remember Russian adjectives etc change with gender, so -aya endings
go
with -a nouns, and -iy with (most) consonants.

Fleet				Flot
Military			Voyenniy
Sea				Morskoi
Space				Kosmicheskiy
Force				Voiska

Space Fleet			Kosmicheskiy Flot
Space Force			Kosmicheskaya Voiska
Space Navy			Voyenno-Kosmicheskiy Flot

Admiral 			Admiral
Vice-Admiral			Vitse-Admiral
Captain 			Kapitan
Lieutenant			Leytenant
Sailor				Matros

Ship				Korabl'
Battleship			Liney Korabl' "Ship of the line"
Cruiser 			Kreyser
				(Raketniy=Missile, Legkiy=Light, Bolshoi
or
Tyazhyoliy=Large or				    Heavy, Broniy=
Armoured)
Destroyer			Eskadrenniy Minonosyets (literally
"Squadron
Minelayer")
Frigate\escort			Storozhevoy Korabl' (Escort or Guard
Ship)

Submarine			Podvodnaya lodka (Underwater Boat)

Cutter (incl. missile boats)	Kater
Fast				Skoriy
Anti-				Protiv eg Protivozduchniy=Anti-air,
Protivolodochniy= Anti-submarine
Cruise missile			Krylataya Raketa
Nuclear (powered)		Atomniy

	They liked 3-letter type abbreviations and often used
constructions
like "Large Anti-submarine Ship":  Bolshoi Protivolodochniy Korabl' 
(BPK)
eg Kresta II; Raketniy Kreyser (RKR) eg Kirov

	Any navy with a Russian tradition would be certain to have a
ship
named "Pamyat Merkurya", after a heroic vessel from the wars against
Turkey.
If they're lefties, Potemkin, of course, and heaps of "place-name
Komsomolyets" and "Red place-name" ships.  Rurik is a good bet for any
Russians.  

That's all I can think of off the cuff;  I can probably find more if
needed.

Rob

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