Re: DSII question: Artillery

At 09:21 AM 10/6/97, you wrote:
Status: RO

>Hello,
>	I have a question for the effect of artillery in DSII.	In the
front of
>the manual it states that infantry is considered suppressed if
successfully
>engaged by direct fire weapons, armor is suppressed only if an element
is
>damaged or destroyed.	In the back under artillery it says that all
units
>are suppressed by artillery even if it is only harrassing fire (no
>munitions chit expended).  Is armor suppressed by artillery or only if
an
>armor unit is damaged or destoyed by the artillery?
>	Phil P.

I've always assumed the former but the rules do contradict. I posted
awhile
back that the whole idea of under fire markers for tanks are goofy
anyway
(in their effect). Tanks under fire won't sit still, they'll MOVE. In
fact,
even well trained infantry will do this. Michael D. Doubler, in his fine
book "Closing with the Enemy: How GIs Fought the War in Europe,
1944-1945",
notes, "By late 1943 infantrymen had learned two techniques that helped
reduce casualties. The best way to avoid losses was to keep moving
forward
and to close rapidly with the enemy. Infantry leaders taught their
soldiers
that 'hitting the dirt' upon enemy contact DID NOT MEAN FREEZING IN
PLACE
and that squads had to continue moving forward under fire. Soldiers
discovered that MOVING OUT FROM UNDERNEATH concentrations of enemy shell
fire greatly reduced casualties." [emphasis my own] In my posts I
suggested
that veteran and elite forces actually be forced to move (in a direction
of
the players choice) when under fire.

-----
Paul J. Calvi Jr.
tanker@rahul.net

"If I had time...to study war, I think I should concentrate almost
entirely
on the 'actualities of war,' the effects of tiredness, hunger, fear,
lack
of sleep, weather....The principles of strategy and tactics...are
absurdly
simple: it is the actualities that make war so complicated and so
difficult, and are usually neglected by historians."

--FM Archibald Wavell to B.H. Liddell Hart (as quoted in "Frontsoldaten:
The German Soldier in World War Two" by Stephen G. Fritz. )